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		<title>By: Emmett</title>
		<link>http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/learning-from-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>Emmett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would those merits be?  Does Haas Hall lack merit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would those merits be?  Does Haas Hall lack merit?</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Norton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emmett-The district evaluates each request on the merits of the specific request.  Susan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emmett-The district evaluates each request on the merits of the specific request.  Susan</p>
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		<title>By: Emmett</title>
		<link>http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/learning-from-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Emmett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan -- Do you think the district would be more supportive if the application were for a charter high school?

I don&#039;t believe that the district has ever supported a request from Haas Hall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan &#8212; Do you think the district would be more supportive if the application were for a charter high school?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that the district has ever supported a request from Haas Hall.</p>
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		<title>By: BKisida</title>
		<link>http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/learning-from-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>BKisida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for stopping by Susan, and right you are. I didn&#039;t focus on the grade levels to be offered by Prism because the substance of my argument was simply that the charter school would save the district money, and, even though the millage was for the high school, the central issue here is funding.  Saving money in one area would free up money for other areas.

That said, while I don&#039;t know the current status, there has been recent talk about another charter school that is planning on opening in Fayetteville--&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nwanews.com/nwat/2009/jul/30/oklahoma-charter-school-may-expand-fayett-20090730/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Dove School of Excellenc&lt;/a&gt;e--that I believe would serve high school students. If successful, this school could both save the district money and help to alleviate some of the space concerns at the current high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by Susan, and right you are. I didn&#8217;t focus on the grade levels to be offered by Prism because the substance of my argument was simply that the charter school would save the district money, and, even though the millage was for the high school, the central issue here is funding.  Saving money in one area would free up money for other areas.</p>
<p>That said, while I don&#8217;t know the current status, there has been recent talk about another charter school that is planning on opening in Fayetteville&#8211;<a href="http://www.nwanews.com/nwat/2009/jul/30/oklahoma-charter-school-may-expand-fayett-20090730/" rel="nofollow">The Dove School of Excellenc</a>e&#8211;that I believe would serve high school students. If successful, this school could both save the district money and help to alleviate some of the space concerns at the current high school.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Norton</title>
		<link>http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/learning-from-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prism did not propose a charter high school.
Startup request was K-4 to extend to K-8 later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prism did not propose a charter high school.<br />
Startup request was K-4 to extend to K-8 later.</p>
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		<title>By: P-Daddy</title>
		<link>http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/learning-from-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>P-Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only other public charter high school in the Fayetteville School District, Haas Hall Academy, was oversubscribed 5-to-1 in their entry grade this year and subsequently had to implement a low-probability admission lottery.  Clearly there is unsatisfied demand for alternatives to FHS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only other public charter high school in the Fayetteville School District, Haas Hall Academy, was oversubscribed 5-to-1 in their entry grade this year and subsequently had to implement a low-probability admission lottery.  Clearly there is unsatisfied demand for alternatives to FHS.</p>
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		<title>By: WeekendBorrior</title>
		<link>http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/learning-from-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>WeekendBorrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting that the district officials have recommended against authorizing a school promoting an innovative learning environment that seeks to prepare ‎children for ‎the 21st century… 

Perhaps the district officials believe they are the only people who can ‎provide this ‎service?‎</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that the district officials have recommended against authorizing a school promoting an innovative learning environment that seeks to prepare ‎children for ‎the 21st century… </p>
<p>Perhaps the district officials believe they are the only people who can ‎provide this ‎service?‎</p>
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		<title>By: Emmett</title>
		<link>http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/learning-from-defeat/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Emmett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether the Fayetteville school district is behaving irrationally here depends on whether we think districts behave as &quot;profit&quot; maximizers or revenue maximizers.  

If they should behave as profit maximizers, then refusing charter applications is irrational because charters would allow them to have more &quot;profit&quot; (or more money to spend per student).

But if schools should behave as revenue maximizers, then the rational things for them to do is to turn down requests from charters because it would take revenue away from them.

I suspect most public school districts act like revenue maximizers, not profit maximizers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether the Fayetteville school district is behaving irrationally here depends on whether we think districts behave as &#8220;profit&#8221; maximizers or revenue maximizers.  </p>
<p>If they should behave as profit maximizers, then refusing charter applications is irrational because charters would allow them to have more &#8220;profit&#8221; (or more money to spend per student).</p>
<p>But if schools should behave as revenue maximizers, then the rational things for them to do is to turn down requests from charters because it would take revenue away from them.</p>
<p>I suspect most public school districts act like revenue maximizers, not profit maximizers.</p>
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