Comments on: Why vote “yes”?…because we want to have the best! http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/why-vote-yes-because-we-like-pretty-things/ a view from mid-America Fri, 08 Apr 2011 15:16:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: N. Lightend http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/why-vote-yes-because-we-like-pretty-things/comment-page-1/#comment-44 N. Lightend Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:19:01 +0000 http://mid-riffs.com/?p=250#comment-44 Put $40M toward renovations, and $76M toward teacher salary increases. That would be about $10,000/yr per teacher, which would go a long way toward creating 21st Century Goodness. And you know, the 21st Century is Here, the Future is Happening Now, etc. There are a dozen better ways to spend revenues from the proposed millage increase. As it stands, the push for a $116M building is a manufactured need, which is to say it is not needed at such a level. Fayetteville Super High will flatter the sensibilities of people who do not need to be flattered, and those in our community who do need help will wind up paying more for their rent, as property taxes are regressive. Put $40M toward renovations, and $76M toward teacher salary increases. That would be about $10,000/yr per teacher, which would go a long way toward creating 21st Century Goodness. And you know, the 21st Century is Here, the Future is Happening Now, etc.
There are a dozen better ways to spend revenues from the proposed millage increase.
As it stands, the push for a $116M building is a manufactured need, which is to say it is not needed at such a level. Fayetteville Super High will flatter the sensibilities of people who do not need to be flattered, and those in our community who do need help will wind up paying more for their rent, as property taxes are regressive.

]]> By: anonymouse http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/why-vote-yes-because-we-like-pretty-things/comment-page-1/#comment-43 anonymouse Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:10:16 +0000 http://mid-riffs.com/?p=250#comment-43 Let us not forgot all those nameless big folks out there who need this to happen the Bond underwriters the Investors who will buy these taxpayer funded low risk bonds the big construction folks etc. The children are just a front. Financial Bubbles forever! Let us not forgot all those nameless big folks out there who need this to happen
the Bond underwriters
the Investors who will buy these taxpayer funded low risk bonds
the big construction folks
etc.
The children are just a front.
Financial Bubbles forever!

]]> By: WeekendBorrier http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/why-vote-yes-because-we-like-pretty-things/comment-page-1/#comment-42 WeekendBorrier Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:53:48 +0000 http://mid-riffs.com/?p=250#comment-42 ELwood and Moondawg, isn't that the point? The argument is thin, and yet it's all we're ‎left with... So why are we pushing for this new school?‎ ‎1. The facility is not falling apart.‎ ‎2. Fayetteville high school is already a decent performer; how much can we really ‎expect a new building to boost achievement?‎ ‎3. The economic benefits argument is suspect because of the property tax increase.‎ ‎4. The new school is going to have to be pretty green to make up for the resources lost ‎in the demolition. ‎ Why don't people just call it like it is? People want a monument to Fayetteville's ‎greatness. Don't act like this money is being spent on boosting achievement etc.‎ ELwood and Moondawg, isn’t that the point? The argument is thin, and yet it’s all we’re ‎left with… So why are we pushing for this new school?‎

‎1. The facility is not falling apart.‎
‎2. Fayetteville high school is already a decent performer; how much can we really ‎expect a new building to boost achievement?‎
‎3. The economic benefits argument is suspect because of the property tax increase.‎
‎4. The new school is going to have to be pretty green to make up for the resources lost ‎in the demolition. ‎

Why don’t people just call it like it is? People want a monument to Fayetteville’s ‎greatness. Don’t act like this money is being spent on boosting achievement etc.‎

]]> By: Moondawg http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/why-vote-yes-because-we-like-pretty-things/comment-page-1/#comment-41 Moondawg Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:19:54 +0000 http://mid-riffs.com/?p=250#comment-41 I think ELwood nailed it solid. "Getting pretty damn thin" perfectly describes what I'm seeing here. "Like piss on a rock" is just the mustard atop the logic. I think ELwood nailed it solid. “Getting pretty damn thin” perfectly describes what I’m seeing here. “Like piss on a rock” is just the mustard atop the logic.

]]> By: JMcGee http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/why-vote-yes-because-we-like-pretty-things/comment-page-1/#comment-40 JMcGee Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:26:55 +0000 http://mid-riffs.com/?p=250#comment-40 ELwood, I know this is not the case on other blogs you frequent, but next time please try to make sense when you comment here. Thanks in advance. ELwood, I know this is not the case on other blogs you frequent, but next time please try to make sense when you comment here.

Thanks in advance.

]]> By: eLwood http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/why-vote-yes-because-we-like-pretty-things/comment-page-1/#comment-38 eLwood Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:07:49 +0000 http://mid-riffs.com/?p=250#comment-38 You're getting pretty damn thin on this one, like piss on a rock. You’re getting pretty damn thin on this one,
like piss on a rock.

]]> By: Mid-Riffs » Blog Archive » Castles Made of Sand http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/why-vote-yes-because-we-like-pretty-things/comment-page-1/#comment-37 Mid-Riffs » Blog Archive » Castles Made of Sand Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:07:19 +0000 http://mid-riffs.com/?p=250#comment-37 [...] Update:  Also check out our interesting followups – Oh my…the sky is falling! and Why vote “yes”?…Because we want to have the best! [...] [...] Update:  Also check out our interesting followups – Oh my…the sky is falling! and Why vote “yes”?…Because we want to have the best! [...]

]]> By: JMcGee http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/why-vote-yes-because-we-like-pretty-things/comment-page-1/#comment-35 JMcGee Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:53:16 +0000 http://mid-riffs.com/?p=250#comment-35 So, it's a good thing we decide things like this with elections. Taxes cannot be levied on the arbitrary whim of a few. So, it’s a good thing we decide things like this with elections. Taxes cannot be levied on the arbitrary whim of a few.

]]> By: Emmett http://mid-riffs.com/2009/09/why-vote-yes-because-we-like-pretty-things/comment-page-1/#comment-31 Emmett Mon, 14 Sep 2009 02:13:31 +0000 http://mid-riffs.com/?p=250#comment-31 You make an excellent point. But the difference between my desire for a big screen TV (even though I don't "need" it) and blowing up a perfectly fine high school building in order to spend $116 million to build a new one, is that I decide to buy the TV with my own money. The backers of the millage want to take other people's money to build the equivalent of a big screen TV for themselves. You make an excellent point. But the difference between my desire for a big screen TV (even though I don’t “need” it) and blowing up a perfectly fine high school building in order to spend $116 million to build a new one, is that I decide to buy the TV with my own money.

The backers of the millage want to take other people’s money to build the equivalent of a big screen TV for themselves.

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